In this guest conversation, Rajesh Nagjee joins Anthony to explore a pattern many founders experience but rarely name clearly: as the business grows, the leader often becomes less effective before they become more capable.
Rajesh explains why every promotion creates a temporary period of incompetence, and why scaling a company requires more than better systems or harder work. The inner game of the founder, fear, stress, doubt, distraction, and unresolved emotional weight, must evolve at the same pace as the outer game of the business.
The discussion moves from clear space and mental distraction to bottlenecks, workability, integrity, alignment, delegation, and the difference between fixed process and fixed outcomes. Rajesh argues that many leaders stay stuck because they try to perfect process, follow borrowed frameworks, or solve problems from the wrong mental state.
This episode is about what actually makes leadership and scale work: clear space, accurate diagnosis, better questions, and the ability to move from reaction into creation.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode
Why every promotion creates a new level of incompetence
The difference between the founder’s inner game and outer game
Why clear space matters more than constant pressure
How leaders get trapped in the past-present intersection
The distinction between morality and workability
Why integrity, alignment, and necessary/sufficient conditions matter in business
Why fixed outcomes work better than fixed processes
What good coaching actually does for founders

Anthony is the Founder and CEO of CDO Group, a national commercial construction firm he started nearly 25 years ago from his basement with a small team. Since then, CDO Group has grown into a trusted partner for some of the world’s largest brands, delivering complex retail construction projects across the United States and building an estimated one million square feet of retail space each year.
Beyond construction, his work focuses on uncovering the stories, ideas, and lessons that shape entrepreneurs as they grow their businesses and themselves.


